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Susan Foreman by Power-and-Chaos Susan Foreman by Power-and-Chaos
Doctor Who ROCKS! :headbang:

This is Susan Foreman - the Doctor's very first companion. Well, really not just his companion but also his granddaughter. When the TARDIS breaks down in 1963, she spends several months enrolled at the local Coal Hill comprehensive school...until she accidentally lures teachers Ian and Barbara back home to the TARDIS, and into their adventures. I wonder if she knew that the school was being used as an alien base (for Daleks)? :)

Susan was more knowledgeable than her youth would have her appear, but could be extremely nave on many occasions.


Artist: :iconalicexz: ^alicexz.
Size: 500*500px
Format: Digital painting.

"Doctor Who" and all characters are to the BBC.

^alicexz is an awesome artist. If you haven't seen her art already, where have you been living? :P
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PostPostmodernist Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2015
I wish someone would draw a later incarnation of the doctor sitting in the ruins of 22nd century London looking sadly at a lost sandal.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2015
Hmm, that's an interesting idea for a picture. :)

(If I could draw, I might do it xD)
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KeplerNova Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I like Susan a lot. She's so cute! :D
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2013

Cool! She seems to be my most-faved commission. :D

Which is strange - given how many Nu-Who fans there are, my Nu-Who commissions are way less popular. xD

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KeplerNova Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
It's probably because:
1) You did a very good job with this.
2) Classic Who fans are very happy that someone remembers Susan.
3) She's impossibly adorable.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013

OK, I'll give you points 2 and 3, she was quite adorable when she wasn't screaming. :D


But I should correct you on point 1, I commissioned this portrait from :iconalicexz: `alicexz :)

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KeplerNova Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Wow, her art is amazing!
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Amai-Rose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
She has a hard face to capture. You did a really lovely job with this piece.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2012
Thanks, but I just commission all the lovely art - this was digitally painted by the very awesome :iconalicexz:. :dance:
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Amai-Rose Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
Sorry, I didn't read properly. She did a lovely job with this, you picked an awesome issue to commission:)
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ShivaTheSarcastic Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2011  Student Artist
I love Susan! Carole Anne Ford was a real cutie back then. I just hate that they made her into the screamer by the end, because she was intelligent, and she had a bit of telepathic power.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011
Yeah...but they realised that most guys in the audience wanted to see the cute female sidekicks screaming for the Doctor to help, so they pandered to the lowest common denominator; hey, it worked. ;)
As for her character otherwise, yes she was intelligent but they balanced that with a little naivete at times...and the weak telepathic powers, correct me if I'm wrong but weren't they only mentioned in one story (specifically, The Sensorites), and then never referred to again? :)
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EcliptorCalrissian Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2014
Apparently, she was described as psychic, action-y, and a bit scary, and... basically, the original concept for Susan is more like River Song but with the powers Susan showed in The Sensorites. Then they decided they wanted her to be someone girls her age could supposedly identify with, and apparently that meant spending nearly all of her screentime blubbering in Barbara's arms. (It helps that she was supposed to be younger than she looked. The first episode is called "An Unearthly Child" for a reason. Unfortunately, she looks nothing like a child and everything like a 24-year-old who happens to be a bit short, which of course Carole was. But then they go have a seven-year-old play her in the movies and make that version much savvier and braver! And keep in mind that this is way before we know anything about what a "Time Lord" is; many years before there was any way the makers could have come up with the later revelations. She wasn't a centuries-old alien who turned into a kid the last time she regenerated, she was just a cool kid.)

Between getting handed the sucky role, and then finding it a lot hard to get other roles because the world saw her as Susan forevermore, her time as companion was not good to Ms. Ford, and it was so short for a reason. However, she seems to have gotten over it, 'cause she's Susan again in the audio stories. Of course, it's a version of Susan who's much more like the way the role was described to her. So anyone who heard the Doctor's granddaughter was the first companion, checked out the old episodes to see her, and said "WTF?!" can see her - well, hear her at least - as you'd expect her to be. 

Best part: You know how the old series Master was a withered zombie-looking horror when he returned during Tom Baker years? They said he was at the end of his final regeneration, making it sound like it's just plain old age.

Well, it wasn't. But we know what exactly happened to him now. And her name is Susan.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014
Wow, I never knew any of that before! (I can't afford to buy the Big Finish Audios either, so I've never learnt about Susan's appearances in them either).

Susan was the reason that Delgado!Master became the rotting corpse facetiously referred to as crispy!Master? What the heck did she do that turned him into...that?? O_O

The one other thing that I do know about Susan, or at least about Ms. Ford, is that for the many years since the time when she played Susan on the telly, she gets extremely upset whenever fans refer to her as the Doctor's first companion. She was not the Doctor's companion, she was his granddaughter. I don't know if Ms. Ford still makes this distinction anymore - I think she may have given up on that after so many years - but she certainly used to.

Yes, Susan in the movies was a much younger child - Roberta Tovey was 12 when she played the role of Susan who, but the character was probably meant to be even younger than that - but the characterisation and background of Susan, and everybody else, was completely different as well. Barbara being Susan's sister (and therefore also Dr Who's granddaughter) for one thing, and Ian being Barbara's klutzy boyfriend for another, not to mention the human Dr Who building T.A.R.D.I.S in his backyard! xD
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EcliptorCalrissian Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014
She got her hands on the Tissue Compression Eliminator. Didn't make him a doll/corpse but evidently it did a number on him.

And reading it again, it's actually more complicated than that. The change is apparently for the audio prorgrams (Zombie Master Actor gets to play Delgado Master, set up by the retcon that it's not a new regeneration but a damaged version of the same form.) but happened in a book. The wiki's explanation:


But still. Susan made him extra crispy and the story in which it happens is relevant to material still being produced. 

And I don't see making the distinction with 'companion' vs. granddaughter. After all, being a companion is a role in the show that a character has with the Doctor; a relative can become a companion and it doesn't make her any less his granddaughter. (And when we go overboard with the timey-wimeyness, a companion can become a relative!)

The movies were very different from canon, but I really enjoy the cooler Susan and the fact that a Dalek invasion gets to look much more impressive. Also the pacing; the old series is bad at killing time to fill a certain episode count. More than a few times they had a good story but not enough story to fill the length of the serial, hence padding that takes away from the experience. Trim off the fat and beef up the budget and two decent serials become summer blockbuster-worthy if you can take the altered details in stride. I really wish there'd been more.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014
Ahh, okay. Like I said, I've never had the money to afford to buy the Big Finish Audios, but I've heard some wonderful things about them and that they have a whole rich history including arcs that relate to the TV series (but are rarely mentioned by the TV, at least directly).

Well yes, a lot of people don't make the distinction between companions and Susan being the Doctor's granddaughter. Apparently though, Carole-Ann got rather snippy with called her character a companion, possibly because she felt that they were relegating her role to being "just another companion like all the others" when she was more than that. I dunno, that bit's just conjecture on my part.

You're right of course, some stories suffered horribly from padding (usually up to an episode or even more of it), to fill out the pre-determined ep count per serial. Some stories, on the other hand, felt somewhat cut short due to being written for, say, 6 episodes and then cut to 5. One of my own favourite "guilty pleasures", actually, suffers from both problems simultaneously! xD That serial in question between "The Dominators" which was originally scheduled for 6 episodes after another story fell through, but then cut to 5 when the guys at the top realised they didn't have enough material for 6 episodes (so they gave the extra episode to the start of "The Mind Robbers", which resulted in its own filler episode in the white voidspace). Unfortunately, they underestimated the amount of filler in Dominators, which still felt rather padded even at only 5 eps long, and could've possibly been cut down to 4. Oh well. :P

The 2 unrelated Cushing movies were great, and although they are quite popular with Dr Who fans now, they weren't very popular at the time. Well, Dr Who and the Daleks was fairly popular, but then Daleks: Invasion Earth - 2150 AD got released and apparently did rather poorly in cinemas everywhere. I recall reading somewhere that there had actually been plans to continue with more movies of Cushing as Who based on each of the subsequent Dalek stories, and so the third movie would've been based on "The Chase" and the fourth would've been "Daleks' Masterplan"- which I feel would've both been really interesting ones to put up on the big screen. But by all accounts, the poor showing of Dalek Invasion caused them to rethink this idea and the third movie was shelved - indefinitely, as it turned out.
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EcliptorCalrissian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014
I can't recall any specific examples of it (not having seen anywhere near all the available oldschool series) but apparently there's more than one serial where they get locked up at the beginning of an episode, spend all that time escaping, then get locked up again at the end and you could excise the episode entirely and change nothing about the story.

I wish I could get my hands on more of 'em. It's where 90% of the Eighth Doctor's career is, after all! With only things like that to tide fans over between the 90s movie and the new series, I bet there are as many fans who consider the voice of Paul McGann the "one true Doctor" as there are people who'd say the same of Tom Baker or David Tennant.

...they risk their lives if they say it out loud. But I bet they think it.
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ShivaTheSarcastic Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2011  Student Artist
Yeah, they were only mentioned in The Sensorites story, but that is an interesting idea that they could have explored. Oh well, I still enjoy her. :)
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MightyMorphinPower4 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2011
Exllcnet work on her
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2011
Thanks. Yeah, ^alicexz did a great job. :D
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quirkyslayer Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011
This is really awesome! You captured Susan perfectly.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2011
Thanks, but I didn't make it. :) I commissioned this piece from :iconalicexz:, using a screencap from "An Unearthly Child" as a reference. :)
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BrigadierDarman Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2011
An Unearthly Child, the one that started it all. :)
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2011
Indeed she was. :D Thanks for commenting.
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Arcalian Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Nice to see someone that knows the history.
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Power-and-Chaos Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
'Course I do. :) I've not been around since the beginning (the very first story my dad watched was "The Daleks"), but I've been watching Who since before I can remember (the first story I watched was "Trial of a Timelord"). And I've been a Whovian ever since. :D

Although there are other Whovian-created theories that suggest Susan may not directly be the Doctor's granddaughter, but the granddaughter of The Other, and that the Doctor is somewhat of a re-incarnation of The Other in a completely fresh life (The Other being the third guy who worked with Rassilon and Omega). But I don't think that makes much sense, or matters much anyways.

Excuse my rambling. ^^;
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Arcalian Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2011
Yeah, I read Lungbarrow. My first story was The Pirate Planet. "Mistah Fibuleeeeee!" :D

No excuses needed.
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